Common Enemy Types You Hate?

There isn't really a particular enemy type I hate, but the "wait for it, roll, hit" type enemies get on my nerves. Dark Souls games popularized this. They are challenging, so it's on me. But the whole "can't hit them until they swing" mechanic fucks with my head somehow. It's weird having to drop everything and play by these new rules all of a sudden. It takes me out of the game. But it also make it more satisfying when long range hurts them, so it's not all bad. Just a bit too frequent and feels forced/unnatural. If the enemy is armored, it makes sense and is ok then. Too many bosses like this now too, feels lazy this way.

Also, not a fan of disappearing Megaman platforms lol

Stupid Tower Shield ennemies that somehows also block on the sides and you HAVE to hit in back with a ridiculous manoeuver, because THERE WILL BE a variant that is stupidly fast and make it a pain even if you would one hit it normally .-. Especially when in a group of ennemies and hitting them by accident stuns-cancel your attacks.

The only ones of those I didn't mind was in Marvel's Spider-Man because you can just slide under enemies and uppercut them in the air.

I dislike the enemies that can follow you extremely far away from where you encounter them/they spawned. Like, I'm RUNNING AWAY FOR A REASON!! pls don't kill me!!

@SebOuiKin Good call. Made me immediately think of the Stalfos from Zelda. At least in the first Zelda you could just bomb their ass - OoT Stalfos were the most annoying.

Close ranged combat: Zombies or anything that swarms, I do not like being zerg rushed; get off of me, get away from me, ahhhh!!!!
Long ranged combat: snipers, don't like getting shot at without knowing where it's coming from

@OhNoAFanOfTouhou

NGL I actually forgot about those, they are so uncommon in the game they are'nt that much of an issue, but I guess that's also fair XD I think using the giant's Knife/Biggoron Sword goes through them anyway <.<

I think these kind of ennemies are even more annoying in 2D platformers where they guard as smal AF corridor you HAVE to go through and are a massive pain to beat because of no space.

@SebOuiKin Darknuts were the guys in Zelda I meant. If you didn't have bombs you had to hit them on the sides or back. But the way they moved and turned was so unpredictable, they were a pain with just the sword. You'd usually have to kill them all to continue.

2D platformers... I'm sure there were some big shield guys in most of the Castlevania games. I don't remember them ever being particularly hard, though.

DPS hp sponge regenerators are my biggest gaming gripe.
Ie boss of Grim Garden in Kai no Kiseki

@SebOuiKin Darknuts were the guys in Zelda I meant. If you didn't have bombs you had to hit them on the sides or back. But the way they moved and turned was so unpredictable, they were a pain with just the sword. You'd usually have to kill them all to continue.

2D platformers... I'm sure there were some big shield guys in most of the Castlevania games. I don't remember them ever being particularly hard, though.

Shit, it is a very sad topic...
So, you know in 90s there were some hype to do games bosses very smartass,
And the story was this way - you came to the boss, you almost kill him,
but fucking hell - you did not found the hidden item 5 levels before,
and shit - you have to go back...
Or start the game again...
Sad times...

@ssvmdh Doom 64 was like that. You had to complete all the top secret levels and get all the pieces for the laser gun or else the final boss was an absolute bitch to beat.

@OhNoAFanOfTouhou
I couldn't beat my 1st playthrough of a Fire Emblem game because weapons have limited uses. I used up all the best weapons before the final stage.

@Lucifrost Oof. Yeah, that'd be annoying. I've never been a fan of limited use equipment in games, even if you can repair them. That's why I'm not a big fan of BoTW/ToTK.

I remember rushing through BoTW to get the master sword because "surely" I thought, "the master sword wouldn't break" then it "ran out of power" and needed to recharge... I was so done with that game at that point. I kept playing and even did a new playthrough recently; but that whole experience left me flabbergasted. I hope the new Zelda games go back to the good old ways.

@ssvmdh Doom 64 was like that. You had to complete all the top secret levels and get all the pieces for the laser gun or else the final boss was an absolute bitch to beat.

Spiders, or any kind of skittering types
- disgusting to look at, hard to deal with, why do I start feeling itchy all of a sudden?

Robots
- feels unsatisfying to bonk, ratatat and zap, and feels like they don't even care

Poison types
- feels bad to get tapped once and start to die slowly, the gameplay counter is usually just some kind of antidote, which is boring and can get repetitive

Poisonous robot spiders would be the biggest turn-off for me. I can't remember if I've ever encountered one...

Spiders, or any kind of skittering types
- disgusting to look at, hard to deal with, why do I start feeling itchy all of a sudden?

Robots
- feels unsatisfying to bonk, ratatat and zap, and feels like they don't even care

Poison types
- feels bad to get tapped once and start to die slowly, the gameplay counter is usually just some kind of antidote, which is boring and can get repetitive

Poisonous robot spiders would be the biggest turn-off for me. I can't remember if I've ever encountered one...

Spiders, or any kind of skittering types
- disgusting to look at, hard to deal with, why do I start feeling itchy all of a sudden?

Robots
- feels unsatisfying to bonk, ratatat and zap, and feels like they don't even care

Poison types
- feels bad to get tapped once and start to die slowly, the gameplay counter is usually just some kind of antidote, which is boring and can get repetitive

Poisonous robot spiders would be the biggest turn-off for me. I can't remember if I've ever encountered one...

I loathe all enemies that take a million attempts to beat

Do you use or need arachnophobia modes, or do you think they're overkill and a waste of resources? No judgement either way on my part btw

@k06ler Not a fan of Dark Souls, eh?

Yeah, Some people get that really nice sense of accomplishment after beating a boss they've been struggling to beat... I do too, sometimes. But when it's every single boss (and sometimes not even a boss) it just gets tiring. "It's finally over with, oh wait... The next one will be even harder. This was just the first friggin' boss!"

Enemies that require hyper specific things to counter:
Doom Eternal's marauders can only be damaged when they glow green. Then they took the worst mechanic from that game, and literally built The Dark Ages around that...
Swarms in Pathfinder Wotr are practically immune/resistant to everything, except AOE spells.

@JaniSIr I love Doom. But Eternal was too damn fast paced for my old brain. Dark Ages just never appealed to me in the first place. The first Bethesda Doom was pretty good, though.

Yeah, when enemies are totally immune to damage until you destroy their pinky toe, or pull a lever 3 flights of stairs up or whatever is always annoying. I think the original Quake started that crap with that devil boss.

I like a challenge, but if the challenge required you to have ahead of time brought a particular build, and without it your run is basically fini, it is not so fun because I'm not a mind reader. Especially if the run-up to it is like an hour and a half.

Slow debuffs, High Evasion, Damage reflect enemies annoys the shit outta me.

I play fast paced glass cannon builds so these are usually my kryptonites.

I wonder if a lot of us are tired of Dark Souls type challenge in many games either because (1) it's too hard for gamers or (2) it's replaced much of what we think of as more deserving challenge/accomplishments in a game. Not hating on Souls, but it may be outliving its welcome a bit.

I'm 10 billion times more impressed with completing Touhou or Ikaruga than Sekiro or w/e it was. Or even Battletoads and other hard retro. I definitely would like to see more variety in what's considered challenging and praised in the next gen. Would love to see more real challenging PVE FPS shit, team or solo.

I wonder if a lot of us are tired of Dark Souls type challenge in many games either because (1) it's too hard for gamers or (2) it's replaced much of what we think of as more deserving challenge/accomplishments in a game. Not hating on Souls, but it may be outliving its welcome a bit.

I'm 10 billion times more impressed with completing Touhou or Ikaruga than Sekiro or w/e it was. Or even Battletoads and other hard retro. I definitely would like to see more variety in what's considered challenging and praised in the next gen. Would love to see more real challenging PVE FPS shit, team or solo.

@OhNoAFanOfTouhou
@yawnaroo

I'm thinking moderation is more important than I might realize or acknowledge. Because like a few Souls style enemies or bosses are cool, or sprinkled in with lots of exploring in between encounters. And also taking too long on bosses for BS reasons kinda sucks too.


Now, there's a bunch of people now complaining about this Megaman 2 boss (It ruins the game! type shit) and others agreeing. Started on Twitter then made it to multiple YT videos for engagement lol.


It's a pain but memorable since almost everyone fails the first time - iirc you need specific weapons available (fully stocked) and used correctly to pass it. But I think people are overreacting since once you know what to do, you're good, and there's a bit of accomplishment as its a challenge to figure out especially as beginner or kid. Kind of a puzzle boss within a side scroller. It's not some hours and hours time sink or skill check either.

This being the only time there's something like this is what makes it OK in MM2 imo. But if every Megaman boss was like this, then, holy shit! The game and it's reputation would be completely different!

So moderation is important af here! Makes a sub-kaizo moment fun and satisfying to beat imo

btw this is also why I can't stand kaizo type games, where every JUMP is a "FUCK YOU!" type thing that kills you because you couldnt see something unexpected coming lol. Such a thing is fun for a shared "can't believe this shit" playthrough at the very least. The original Mario 2 on Famicom is full of sub-kaizo shit btw, along with bad control imo at critical moments - incredibly, in a Mario game!

@Shishio-kun It was definitely getting pretty obnoxious at the peak of the "soulslike" trend. I remember a few games looking really interesting and thinking about buying them, until I saw them start roll dodging all over and getting wafflestomped by giant Deliverance looking dudes.

@OhNoAFanOfTouhou
I never liked those games, but I was content to ignore them. 9 Sols is the game that made me see their prevalence as a huge problem.

@Lucifrost Admittedly, Elden Ring is a genuinely good game. I finally broke the difficulty barrier on that by just going and looking up an easy build and managing to get the equipment for it. (2H greatsword Strength focus).

"You didn't really beat it with that build" some people would say... But, whatever - it was hard as hell killing the bosses and such to get the gear to play the build. I earned the right to cheese it lol

@OhNoAFanOfTouhou
@yawnaroo

I'm thinking moderation is more important than I might realize or acknowledge. Because like a few Souls style enemies or bosses are cool, or sprinkled in with lots of exploring in between encounters. And also taking too long on bosses for BS reasons kinda sucks too.


Now, there's a bunch of people now complaining about this Megaman 2 boss (It ruins the game! type shit) and others agreeing. Started on Twitter then made it to multiple YT videos for engagement lol.


It's a pain but memorable since almost everyone fails the first time - iirc you need specific weapons available (fully stocked) and used correctly to pass it. But I think people are overreacting since once you know what to do, you're good, and there's a bit of accomplishment as its a challenge to figure out especially as beginner or kid. Kind of a puzzle boss within a side scroller. It's not some hours and hours time sink or skill check either.

This being the only time there's something like this is what makes it OK in MM2 imo. But if every Megaman boss was like this, then, holy shit! The game and it's reputation would be completely different!

So moderation is important af here! Makes a sub-kaizo moment fun and satisfying to beat imo

btw this is also why I can't stand kaizo type games, where every JUMP is a "FUCK YOU!" type thing that kills you because you couldnt see something unexpected coming lol. Such a thing is fun for a shared "can't believe this shit" playthrough at the very least. The original Mario 2 on Famicom is full of sub-kaizo shit btw, along with bad control imo at critical moments - incredibly, in a Mario game!